Monthly Archives: April 2022

Take 2 Podcast: Utah U.S. Senate race, state conventions, Elon Musk deal to buy Twitter

Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: John Dougall, Utah State Auditor, and Maura Carabello, Exoro Group

Utah US Senate Race

Primary two months away – ballots arrive June 7th

Isom tells Edwards to drop out

Mike Lee gets 70% of Delegate vote at convention

State Conventions

Democrats vote to back independent Senate Candidate Evan McMullin

Any convention surprises?

ALSO: Six-term Utah lawmaker loses bid for re-election

Elon Musk makes a deal to buy Twitter

 Senator Orrin Hatch 1934-2022

Will lie in state at the Utah State Capitol

Funeral Services next Friday

  • Legacy mixed
  • Expected guests

Take 2 Podcast: Ally Isom – Republican challenger in the Utah US Senate Race

Two months out from the Utah Primary and Ally Isom, an underdog in the Senate Race is calling on her rival Becky Edwards to drop out of the race. The two women are running in the Republican primary in hopes of unseating Senator Mike Lee. All three collected the 28 thousand signatures needed to make it on the primary ballot.

During last week’s Republican Convention Senator Mike Lee received 70% of the vote from GOP delegates. Edwards came in a distant second with 11.7% and Isom third with 9.66%.

Isom insists she is the more likely of the challengers to oust Lee and win in November.

She sat down with Heidi Hatch today to talk about why she believes Edwards should drop out, her plan to fix soaring inflation and slowly cut down on the national debt.

Edwards who has been invited to join us in the coming week on the podcast- released a statement on the call to drop out on Twitter today.

On inflation, Isom says first things first, “stop printing money and talk monetary policy. The thing I fear most is when the government starts messing with the dials we turn them too far – like the 3rd round of stimulus money that went out. It didn’t need to go.”

On the issue of wiping out school debt she says borrowers have an obligation not taxpayers.

“I think if they have taken on that financial obligation, they have a responsibility to pay it back. The response that it would help the economy that’s what we heard during the stimulus days. I don’t buy it one bit.”

There are ways she says student debt can be lessened through lower rates and reform of higher education.

Isom, a mother and grandmother is now an empty nester with her children now on their own. Her home is however full again. She talks about how she and her husband were able to take in a Ukrainian family who’ve lost everything.


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Senator Mike Lee sat down with Heidi Hatch two weeks ago: You can hear their conversation here.

Becky Edwards has also been invited to appear on the Take 2 Podcast.

Utah’s Primary is June 28th, ballots will start arriving in Utah mailboxes on June 7th.

How women can learn to accept and embrace their postpartum body

Women’s bodies change and expand as they grow a baby for the typical nine months of pregnancy. When having a baby, not only do women deal with incorporating their new addition into their lifestyle, but they also need to navigate how their postpartum body looks, as well as all the emotions that come into the mix of new motherhood. As time passes, moms tend to wonder when their bodies will align and “shrink” back to what they were pre-pregnancy, and can become disappointed to learn they will rarely ever be what they were before.

Jade Elliott spoke with Natalie Lanham, DSW, LCSW, Intermountain Healthcare, about postpartum body image.

The postpartum body myth

It’s a myth to think that one’s body will look as it did pre-pregnancy. As moms grow and give birth to their babies, their bodies change. Everyone has a different body type. And no two pregnancy and postpartum experiences are alike. Some women need to go on bedrest or have caesarean sections or experience other pregnancy or childbirth complications that affect how their body recovers. Plus, factor in nursing or bottle feeding, or returning to work, which can all affect how a woman’s body recovers.

“I’ve done a lot of counseling with moms over the years, and there seems to be a greater amount of pressure in the culture in Utah than across the U.S., for women to look a certain way in a certain amount of time post-childbirth,” said Natalie Lanham, DSW, LCSW, a licensed clinical social worker with Intermountain Healthcare.

“Moms need to look at their bodies and realize they birthed their beautiful babies. It’s normal to gain weight in pregnancy. It takes nine months to grow a baby, so bouncing back right away isn’t realistic. It’s helpful for women to understand they don’t need to be “perfect” or fit a certain mold,” added Lanham.

According to Lanham, it’s important to focus on what bodies can do instead of what they look like. And accepting a postpartum body is closely tied to many aspects of a woman’s new identity as a mother.

“Social media tends to portray false narratives about what a postpartum body should look like. Take a break from social media if needed. Consider unfollowing any accounts that promote dieting or weight loss that include aspects of toxic diet culture,” she added.

Diet and exercise

Lanham encourages women to find healthy ways to work towards a healthier body. This may include eating a nutritious diet, slowly easing back into an exercise routine during the postpartum recovery period, and being patient and kind with themselves.

“Exercise can help women feel stronger, happier, and more energized, when they find a type of exercise they enjoy. It helps to listen to the body’s cues. Do physical activities that bring those good feelings. Figure out what triggers negative feelings. Get rid of those first,” she added.

Dieting is one of the most important predictors for eating disorders. Having a distorted body image doesn’t help moms who are going through postpartum body changes.

Having a sudden urge to do whatever it takes to regain their former body can lead to unhealthy behaviors. Keep things in balance. Eat balanced meals. When pregnant or nursing, moms need to eat for themselves and their growing babies.

“If you’re concerned about overeating, half the portion and save the other half for another meal or someone else,” said Lanham.

“While working towards physical fitness goals, find clothes that are flattering and fit well. Wear what’s comfortable and embrace it,” she added.

Goal setting

When it comes to settling goals, it’s vital to be realistic.

  • Discover what contributes to a healthy body image first
  • Talk it out with someone else
  • Don’t engage in negative self-talk about goals
  • Get a partner to set goals with – they can provide perspective
  •  Women need to be patient with their body because it’s healing


Affirmations can be helpful when wanting to maintain a positive outlook on body image and self-worth. And different affirmations work for different people.

When thinking about affirmations, it’s important to think about the reasoning negative thoughts are happening. It’s helpful if women identify the top five things they beat themselves up about.

“When negative thoughts begin, women can identify them, and then tell themselves to stop. Turn it around and say, “I am beautiful because…”, “I have a great___ because…” Turn the negative things into positive affirmations. At the end of the day, it helps if women congratulate themselves about the positive things they love about themselves,” said Lanham.

Some examples of affirmations include:

  • “I will enjoy the present moment…”
  • “My body went through an amazing change and created a beautiful baby”
  •  “I am enough”
  •  “My body image is not my body”

Postpartum mental health and disorders

According to Lanham, postpartum blues typically last about two weeks. However, some women may get into a downward spiral with hormone changes, since estrogen and progesterone spike upon having a baby, causing significant hormone fluctuations. The body needs to adjust to new hormone changes which is normal to a degree. Some symptoms of the baby blues are mood swings, anxiety, sadness, irritability, feeling overwhelmed, appetite problems and trouble sleeping.

If a mom feels these feelings for more than two weeks, it’s wise for her to reach out to her provider for a referral to a behavioral health specialist who can help screen her for peripartum anxiety or depression.

Symptoms of peripartum mood disorders include:

  • Severe mood swings
  •  Difficulty time bonding with baby
  •  Overwhelming fatigue
  • Reduced interest in previously enjoyable activities
  • Hopelessness
  •  Feelings of guilt and inadequacy
  •  Difficulty making decisions
  •  Severe anxiety (panic attacks)
  • Thoughts of harming self or baby
  •  Recurrent thoughts of suicide.

The difference between the baby blues and a mood disorder is that these feelings may last for months or longer. If such is the case, get immediate help.

Call a local behavioral health hotline such as the Intermountain Healthcare Behavioral Health Services Navigation line available from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. at 833.442.2211.

Sometimes, moms experience an extreme mood disorder that’s a more severe long-lasting depression called postpartum psychosis. Insomnia or undiagnosed or treated mood disorders may contribute to moms experiencing hallucinations, delusions, extra energy or paranoia. If a loved one is noticing this in a mom, then it needs to be addressed immediately.

If symptoms are severe and urgent, go to a walk-in behavioral health clinic or a hospital emergency department.

Moms who feel they are high strung or tend toward anxiety will want to talk to their provider while pregnant. It’s best to call the provider when anxiety kicks up a little more than usual, and they can make a referral to a behavioral health provider. Or sometimes postpartum anxiety can kick in after the baby is born.

While moms struggle with hormone fluctuations during the postpartum period, fathers too may struggle with this period as they adjust to this major life change. Some common feelings fathers who struggle in this period are:

  •  Sadness
  •  Fatigue
  • Overwhelmed
  •  Anxiety

These symptoms can trigger changes in eating and sleeping and dads can exhibit similar symptoms to moms in the postpartum period. Dads most at risk are those with previous anxiety problems. This can have negative effects with partners and babies since dads can have high anxieties over how to care for and provide for their family. Dads need time with their friends too and it’s okay. They often find nurture as a pack.


Self-care is vital for moms. Make time for it. It looks different for everyone, but it helps maintain some grounding between the different roles that people play in their life.

“It’s helpful if you think of there being 10 little buckets that make up self-care: psychological, social, emotional, mental, spiritual, familial, financial, physical, educational, personal. And you can’t fill every bucket, every day,” said Lanham.

“Each morning, choose to put a marble in four of the buckets. By the end of each week, at least one marble should be in each of these buckets to fulfill self-care. We struggle with sticking a few in one or more of these buckets and making these unbalanced. The idea is to have at least one in each bucket by the end of the week for balance. This helps people realize how much time is being spent in one category and focus on creating a balance,” she added.

Moms often don’t take enough time to practice self-care. Meditate, listen to music, stretch, bathe, put on lotion that smells good, or use a good product for body self-care. This helps take the stress from the day. Keep in mind that each body deserves to be honored, respected, and nurtured and that life is here to be enjoyed.

For more information about Intermountain behavioral health and women’s health services visit Or call the Intermountain Healthcare Behavioral Health Services Navigation line, available from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. at 833.442.2211.

The Baby Your Baby program provides many resources for all pregnant women and new moms in Utah. There is also expert advice from the Utah Department of Health and Intermountain Healthcare that air each week on KUTV 2News.

Charlie Colin Shares An Intimate Glimpse Of The Highs And Lows Of Being A Rockstar

In this episode, Grammy award-winning musician, songwriter, lyricist, and producer, Charlie Colin, gives us an intimate glimpse of the highs and lows of being a rockstar.

About Charlie Colin:
Charlie Colin is a two-time Grammy award-winning musician, songwriter, lyricist, and producer with three Billboard Top 10 Singles and three Platinum Records. Colin is the former Bassist for the Grammy Award-winning band Train. Colin also played guitar and provided background vocals with many other bands after his departure from the group in 2003.

Choosing the right formula for your baby

Breastfeeding has many benefits for babies and also for moms. The antibodies in breastmilk help protect babies from illness. Breastmilk has just the right amount of fat, sugar, water, and protein to help babies continue to grow. The research and evidence is clear, breast milk is the best food for infants and breastfeeding is associated with decreased risk for infant morbidity and mortality.

But when moms are unable to breastfeed, or need to supplement breastfeeding or stop breastfeeding before a baby turns one year old, it’s important to give their baby infant formula because it’s the closest nutritionally to breastmilk. It is not recommended to give babies under age one cow’s milk, juice or soda.

New parents are often bombarded with choices for infant formulas: Organic, probiotic, plant-based, generic or brand name options. Which is best for baby?

Jade Elliott spoke with Becky Hurst-Davis, registered dietitian nutritionist and clinical nutrition manager at Intermountain Primary Children’s Hospital about the simple advice: there’s no “right” formula, but parents can find the right fit.

“Breastfeeding is best for babies. We encourage breastfeeding whenever possible – and we support parents in choosing formula by giving them good information to make the most informed decision,” Hurst-Davis said. “All formulas marketed in the United States must meet specific nutrition standards and labeling laws, so the choice really comes down to the baby’s needs and parent preference.”

Baby formulas marketed in the United States share these characteristics:

  •  Protein, which comes in three forms:
  1.  whole protein from cow’s milk or soy;
  2.  hydrolyzed protein, or broken-down protein, which helps with digestion or allergy concerns; or
  3.  100 percent synthetic amino acids, or fully broken-down protein, which helps with digestion issues, and are hypoallergenic.
  • Carbohydrate/sugar sources, including lactose, corn syrup solids – different from high fructose corn syrup – maltodextrin, or sucrose.
  •  Fat for calories, brain growth, and eye development.
  •  Vitamins and minerals.

Beyond these staples, Hurst-Davis offers the following information to help parents choose what’s best for their babies:

  • Generic formulas marketed in the U.S. are safe and adhere to the same guidelines as brand-name formulas, and often are less expensive.
  • European infant formulas have different guidelines and standards including labeling standards. If they are not marketed or sold in the United States, Hurst-Davis says it’s not clear whether they meet FDA safety and nutritional standards.
  •  Aside from soy formula, there are no plant-based infant formulas available in the United States.
  • Several infant formulas include prebiotics and probiotics, which research has found help support healthy bacteria in the gut.
  • Oligosaccharides: Some new formulas are touting synthetic human milk oligosaccharides, which are prebiotics. Human milk oligosaccharides have been associated with fighting infection.
  • DHA/ARA, a long-chain fat found in human milk, is added to most infant formulas. DHA/ARA supports vision and cognitive development.
  • Organic formulas: Hurst-Davis has not seen studies to indicate they are more or less nutritious than other formulas. These tend to be more expensive.

Hurst-Davis reminds parents that formula benefits may not present for several weeks. If a baby is experiencing formula intolerance, diarrhea, rash or bloody stools, parents should contact their health care provider.

For mothers with questions about breastfeeding, pumping, or milk supply, Hurst-Davis recommends contacting a lactation consultant or la leche league.

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The Baby Your Baby program provides many resources for all pregnant women and new moms in Utah. There is also expert advice from the Utah Department of Health and Intermountain Healthcare that air each week on KUTV 2News.

Dr. Terry Lyles On How To Turn Negative Stress Into Positive Stress

In this episode, Dr. Terry Lyles, shares his work focused on teaching groups of all ages, how to navigate life storms and difficult situations through stress utilization and work-life balance training.

About Dr. Terry Lyles:
Dr. Terry Lyles holds a Ph.D. in psychology and is recognized as a national/international educator, author and speaker to universities, schools, Fortune 500 Companies, world-class athletes, and public audiences. He teaches groups of all ages how to Navigate Life Storms through life balance training. Dr. Lyles has trained hundreds of individuals including Fire Rescue workers in and around Ground Zero, International Forensic Medical teams in the Asian torn Tsunami area and the United States Air Force Space Command, sharing his time-tested, scientifically measured approach to stress utilization. Major corporations have also benefited from this training technology such as DaimlerChrysler, Banana Republic, Macy’s West, Pfizer, Universal Studios and Tommy Hilfiger, to name just a few. Dr. Lyles has appeared on NBC, ABC, USA Today, CNN, Headlines News, The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch and FOX NEWS, and in U.S. News & World Report as a Corporate Performance Enhancement and Life-Balance Specialist, and hosted a premiere talk show sponsored by Success Magazine, and was heard as the “Stress Doctor” in South Florida.

Take 2 Podcast: Heidi Hatch joined by Sen. Mike Lee

Heidi Hatch joined by Senator Mike Lee

The interview was recorded in studio with Senator Mike Lee Thursday April 14, 2022.

Friday, all eyes were on a CNN report centering around Senator Lee.

CNN obtained text messages of separate conversations of former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, Senator Mike Lee of Utah and Republican Rep. Chip Roy of Texas. The tests spanned from the days after the 2020 presidential election and ran through the first week of January 2021.

KUTV Reported on the leaked texts, along with reaction from Becky Edwards, Evan McMullin, and Ally Isom all looking to unseat Utah’s senior senator.


“The text messages tell the same story Sen. Lee told from the floor of the Senate the day he voted to certify the election results of each and every state in the nation. They tell the story of a US Senator fulfilling his duty to Utah and the American people by following the Constitution.”

Before any word of leaked texts, Heidi Hatch sat down in studio with Senator Mike Lee to talk about inflation, and more importantly his specific plans to help real in spending and lower the rate of inflation.

During the podcast, you will hear us refer to the inflation tracker. The full video will be posted next week.



Bureau of Economic Analysis, Personal Consumption Expenditures; Bureau of Labor Statistics, Consumer Expenditure Survey; Census

Lee on what Congress can do to roll back inflation. “There are things we can do about it. I’ve introduced a few pieces of legislation that would help. One of them is called the PRICE ACT.

The PRICE ACT says that anytime inflation nationally reaches or exceeds 3% and we’re way above that right now, Congress, to spend any money at that moment has to have the approval of 3/5ths of every member of the Senate. What that does by creating a super majority spending requirement, we make it less possible, less easy for Congress to spend too much money.”

“We’ve also got a significant amount of inflation in the housing sector. I’m trying to ease that through something called the HOUSES ACT, which I’ve introduced, which would allow the federal government to set aside land. That’s not within the portfolio of wilderness area, national park, national forests, or anything like that. Just garden variety, dusty Sage brush filled BLM land and allow it to be sold, sell it at a discounted price to state or local governments who can then develop affordable housing on it.”

While the Senator was in house, we talked about the now viral video as he walked out of the historic SCOTUS hearing where Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed.


We talked about the upcoming election, Lee’s voted for his now rival Evan McMullin in the 2016 Presidential election, and Former President Trump’s endorsement. Does the endorsement hurt or help, and did he accept it?

Researching a change into pediatric seizure protocol for EMS providers

The longer a child has a seizure after 5 minutes, the harder it is to stop with medications. This fact is why developing protocols and eliminating barriers for Emergency Medical services to provide anti-seizure rescue medications quickly is so important. Primary Children’s’ Emergency Department hopes a new clinical trial will further empower EMS pre-hospital providers to treat child seizures in a safe and timely manner.

Jade Elliott spoke with Dr. Maija Holsti, MD, MPH, Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Utah, about this clinical trial.

The Pediatric Dose Optimization for Seizures in EMS (PediDOSE) study created by Primary Children’s Hospital in collaboration with Salt Lake City Fire, West Valley Fire, and Unified Fire EMS will run over a period of 4 years at Primary Children’s Emergency Department and 20 other sites across the country.

Paramedics currently perform multiple calculations to determine the dosing for anti-seizure medications, which has led to under-dosing and delays in treatment of pediatric seizures. About a ⅓ of pediatric patients on average are transported to Emergency Departments still seizing due to these delays and under-dosing.

The study will compare dosing of the anti-seizure medication, midazolam, based on age versus conventional dosing based on weight. Age-based dosing will eliminate steps and simplify the protocols for EMS prehospital providers, supporting paramedics to give the correct dose in a timely manner.

Special rules for emergency research by the FDA allows patients to be enrolled in research without prior consent if there is not time to consent. Because a seizure is an emergency and requires immediate treatment, all eligible patients will be consented after enrollment at Primary Children’s Hospital. We will be studying these patients until they leave the hospital to ensure that it is effective and safe.

To be eligible for enrollment in this study, patients must be:

  • Age: 6 months to 13 years old
  • Actively having a seizure in the presence of a paramedic EMS provider
  •  Transported by Salt Lake City Fire, West Valley Fire, and Unified Fire Emergency Medical Services to Primary Children’s Hospital

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The Baby Your Baby program provides many resources for all pregnant women and new moms in Utah. There is also expert advice from the Utah Department of Health and Intermountain Healthcare that air each week on KUTV 2News.

Alec Stern Gives A Step-By-Step Formula to Start, Grow, and Exit As A Successful Serial Entrepreneur

In this episode, Alec Stern, co-founder of eight startups with five exits and one of the founders of Constant Contact, shares his life story and why he’s been selected for top honors and awards. He’s been recognized as the world authority for entrepreneurship. As a world-class drummer and serial entrepreneur, Alec gives us the step-by-step formula required to start, grow, and exit as a successful entrepreneur.

About Alec Stern:
Alec Stern is an entrepreneur, keynote speaker, startup mentor, innovator, and investor. He has become known as “America’s Startup Success Expert” and is now regarded as a motivational speaker, as he has performed hundreds of highly inspiring keynote speeches worldwide. He’s been a co-founder or founding team member of 8 startups with 5 exits – 2 IPOs and 3 acquisitions. As a primary member of Constant Contact’s founding team Alec was one of the original 3 who started the company in an attic. Alec was with the company for 18 years from start-up, to IPO, to a $1.1 Billion-dollar acquisition. In 2020, he was a 2-time Visionary Award winner at top conferences for his success as an entrepreneur and for his work helping startups and entrepreneurs.

Take 2 Podcast: Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, All-Star Game stays in SLC, upcoming elections

Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello

We will not record on April 15th or 22nd and back on April 29th


Romney voted to confirm Jackson and stayed to applaud her, Lee voted no and walked out as the applause were happening.


Romney wrote, “Worst domestic news today: the Biden Administration will admit double or more the number of ‘undocumented’ immigrants at the border, starting May 28.”




NBA Commissioner Adam Silver “There was no discussion over the past 2 days about moving the All-Star Game from Salt Lake City and we do not anticipate moving the game.”

“Ryan Smith, the principal governor of the team and the Utah Jazz have come out against that legislation, but we find that in our conversation with Ryan we think we can create an inclusive environment for our All-Star Game in Salt Lake City that will be welcoming for all our guests and for the diverse community of Utah as well.”


Same day- 1,000 west High students held a walkout at their school in support of transgender students and athletes.


2022: March Deadline

9,189 Democrats changed their party affiliation to Republican from January 1 to March 31.

16,440 unaffiliated voters registered as Republicans.

IN 2020 June Deadline:

21,475 Democrats switched to the Republican party.

47,558 unaffiliated voters filed with the GOP during the three months leading up to the Republican primary.


US Senate Race

  • Becky Edwards
  • Ally Isom
  • Mike Lee

1st Congressional District

  • Tina Cannon
  • Blake Moore

2nd Congressional District

  • Erin Rider
  • Chris Stewart (did not gather)

4th Congressional District

  • Jake Hunsaker
  • Burgess Owens (did not gather)