Category Archives: Take 2

Take 2 – Trump’s positive COVID-19 test, upcoming debates

Podcast host Heidi Hatch is joined by former lawmakers Jim Dabakis (D) and Greg Hughes (R) for another Take 2 episode.

Dabakis joins the conversation from an “undisclosed location” while Hughes is live with Hatch in the 2News Podcast Room.

It took no time at all once the call started to be at odds over whether the Vice Presidential debate at the University of Utah should take place considering President Trump’s recent positive COVID-19 test.

Dabakis says it should be canceled while Hughes is all for it going forward as planned.

What Hughes did say that even Dabakis couldn’t have agreed more with was his opinion that Trump should’ve allowed Presidential Democratic Candidate Joe Biden to talk in their debate that took place earlier in the week.

Other topics talked about are:

  • GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE: Any minds changed?
  • SPENCER COX TEAM: Tweeting out expenditures from the Jon Huntsman, Jr., campaign that proves he was behind his write-in campaign. Does it matter?
  • JOHN DOUGALL COVID-19 AUDIT: Silicon Slopes – should they be under the microscope? We still don’t know who signed off on an $800,000 state expenditure on Hydroxychloriquine.

Take 2: The legacy of RBG and Utah’s COVID-19 surge

Podcast host Heidi Hatch is joined by former lawmakers Jim Dabakis (D) and Greg Hughes (R) for another Take 2 episode.

The trio talked the legacy of the recently late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, also known as the notorious RBG and now the GOP gets to fill her seat on the court while Utah’s Mitt Romney was the vote Democrats were counting on.

They also discuss the debate in Utah’s Congressional District 1. Do ideas even matter in such a right-leaning district or is it simply a party vote? They also talk about the upcoming gubernatorial debate next Tuesday.

Additional topics:

  • COVID-19 numbers are growing, this week reaching its highest peak. Should there be a statewide mandate?
  • Salt Lake County Mayor Jenny Wilson is pushing for one and will this hurt her chances in November?
  • Provo High school tried to move its homecoming game this week to circumvent new restrictions

Take 2: SLCPD officers distrust in city leaders, COVID-19 case spike

Podcast host Heidi Hatch is joined by former lawmakers Jim Dabakis (D) and Greg Hughes (R) for another Take 2 episode.

The trio talked about the three Salt Lake City police officers who sat down with 2News to talk about why they have no trust in their chief and mayor. Dozens of officers say they want to leave the department. Who’s at fault?

Additional topics discussed are:

The new number of cases this week should be deeply concerning for all Utahns. The good news is that we are not yet stressing our healthcare facilities and we have beaten a wave like this once already…you know what to do!…

  • Who should make decisions over when schools shutdown with COVID-19 cases?
  • New airport: Who should we name it after?

Take 2 – 19-year anniversary of 9/11, COVID-19 relief bill, high wind damage

The discussion on the weekly Take 2 podcast began with solemn commemoration of the 19 year anniversary of 9/11, a day when a series of four coordinated terrorist attacks by the Islamist terrorist group al-Qaeda against the United States included passenger airliners being hijacked and flown into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.

Podcast host Heidi Hatch, and former lawmakers Jim Dabakis (D) and Greg Hughes (R), recounted where they were Sept. 11, 2001, during the attacks.

The discussion then turned to current matters, such as the Senate Democrats walking away from the COVID-19 relief bill presented by the GOP. Is the deal dead until after the election – 53 day away?

Sen. Mitt Romney stated of the legislation:

We have an opportunity to either take steps to build on the important provisions we passed as a part of the CARES Act or we can do nothing. This targeted relief package, while not perfect, includes many important bipartisan provisions which would secure federal unemployment benefits, restart the Paycheck Protection Program, help parents with the expenses of childcare and homeschooling, and help our schools keep kids safe. Families, businesses, and communities in Utah need assistance now, not weeks or months down the road. I’m disappointed that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle would not at the very least vote to move forward with this legislation today so we could have a debate on the merits.

Sen. Mike Lee posted on Twitter that the bill wasn’t perfect but it is a start to “real reforms.”

Additional topics discussed are:

  • Trump knew it was worse than the flu. Does this change any minds?
  • Bob Woodward releases book “Rage.”
  • 5-15% undecided depending on poll.
  • Holy wind! Utah digging out from another mess. How are we doing at handling another crisis?
  • SLC schools push online start back a week with no power or WiFi.
  • Utah eliminates sexual assault backlog; 11,193 sexual assault kits tested, 5,025 DNA profiles entered into national database and 1,979 suspected identified through search of the DNA database. The turnaround time to process a kit is now 90 days instead of years
  • Western Wildfires: The left says climate change and the right says federal restrictions that don’t allow logging are to blame.
  • Real Housewives – Bravo releases the trailer. Who’s in to watch and is this good or bad for the great state of Utah?

Take 2 – Is there a ‘conspiracy of silence’ in Utah politics?

2News Anchor Heidi Hatch hosts guests Jim Dabakis (D) and Greg Hughes (R) – both former Utah lawmakers – for another episode of Take 2.

The former lawmakers discussed the “conspiracy of silence”  in Utah politics and other topics including:

  • State of Emergency: It’s time to get government working as its designed;
  • Race for the Governor’s seat: Does Chris Peterson have a shot?
  • The pandemic and businesses;
  • Addressing homelessness in Utah;
  • Policing: Lawlessness the fountainhead of addiction?
  • Salt Lake City moves to the “yellow” phase on Friday.

Take 2 – Conventions, sports boycotts and Huntsman as a write-in candidate

2News Anchor Heidi Hatch is joined by former Utah State Sen. Jim Dabakis (D) and former Republican Speaker of the House, Greg Hughes, for another episode of Take 2.

Was the Republican convention at the White House illegal? Dabakis says yes, Hughes says no. And that’s not all they disagree about.

They go head-to-head on Utah’s 4th District GOP nominee Burgess Owens with Dabakis saying he has filed bankruptcy three times and Hughes responding with how charitable he is with starting a mentoring program for youth. They also grappled over topics including:

  • Attorney General Sean Reyes speech at the RNC,
  • “China Virus” – Who’s at fault?
  • Upcoming general election – Will Jon Huntsman Jr. be a write-in candidate?

Take 2 – The Come Back Episode

2News Anchor Heidi Hatch reunites with former Utah State Sen. Jim Dabakis (D)and former Republican Speaker of the House, Greg Hughes.

The trio discusses topics that include what the former lawmakers have been up to since March and the current state of affairs amid a worldwide pandemic from the novel coronavirus. The conversation was lively and touched on the following:

Pandemic catch up:

What have you been doing since March?

How is the state doing with unemployment (New #’s out Friday)?

Back-to-school – was too soon?

Mask mandates

GOP primary is over or is it?

Will Huntsman run as a write-in?

Should he?

75 days until the election


Congressional races

Special Session

Legislators did not want to renew the state of emergency but the governor did.

Legislators called themselves into session: Does it matter?

Why was a $123 million funding bill submitted an hour or two before a vote?


All virtual – awesome or boring?

Who had the best speech?

Obama raking Trump over the coals. Was this a good look? 1st for a former President.


Defund Police?


Take 2 – Gubernatorial candidate Chris Peterson tours his ‘pioneer spirit,’ expertise

Democratic gubernatorial candidate Christopher Peterson joins host Heidi Hatch on Take 2 to talk about why he thinks he should be Utah’s next governor.

The 5th generation Utahn was raised in Salt Lake County and went to the University of Utah and is now a law professor. He told Hatch:

I’m running for governor because I believe some balance needs to be restored to our government. We need practical solutions that are in the public interest. I believe I have expertise and talent that will help get that to the people of Utah.

Peterson will take on the Republican nominee for governor in this fall’s election.  Utah has not had a Democrat in the highest seat in the Beehive State since 1985 but that doesn’t deter Peterson from believing he’s the individual who will end the Republican streak. He tells Hatch his governing philosophy and tackles the issues of rent deferment, homelessness, and how the state and the federal government should work together.

PODCAST: Take 2 – Gubernatorial candidate Thomas Wright on hydroxychloroquine & more

In this week’s Take 2Heidi Hatch continues her podcast format to comply with social distancing featuring Utah’s gubernatorial candidates.

Former chairman of the Utah Republican Party, Thomas Wright, joins Hatch in a discussion that includes how homeschooling and quarantine are going in the Wright house?

Other topics tackled are:

  • GOP convention is over:  What’s next for the Wright campaign ahead of the primary?
  • Utah is starting to reopen for business. Is it too soon? Too late?
  • Many Utah businesses may not be able to open for months, arenas, theaters, malls, aquarium, water parks etc. Is there a way to keep businesses like this afloat?
  • Wearing a mask: health choice or political choice. Many are now saying it is unconstitutional and it does no good.
  • Hydroxychloroquine purchase by the state $800,000. The money has now been returned. Was this purchase a good old boys club deal or was it in good faith to help the people of utah?
  • Wright wants trade de-stigmatized post pandemic. What will this mean?
  • Utah has seen clear air, open streets and a nice break during the pandemic. How do we keep Utah’s air clean as we return to business as usual?

Take 2 Podcast with candidate Lt. Gov. Cox talking Utah COVID-19, campaign, daily life in pandemic

Gubernatorial candidate and current Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox joined host Heidi Hatch to talk about the race and the unusual state convention. Voting is happening, but how does it feel not to be there in person to make a pitch to delegates?

Cox talks about his signature-gathering efforts, his campaigning with delegates and the advantage some say he has by leading the coronavirus task force.

Do the protests over shutting down businesses in the state have an impact on state decision making?

All this and much more on Take 2.